INTERVIEW WITH
HAROLD A. COVINGTON
INTERVIEWER: Could
you give us a brief autobiography and tell us how you became involved
in White Nationalism?
Harold A. Covington: I was born in Burlington, North Carolina
in 1953. I had my first dose of racial reality at age 15 when I was
thrown into an integrated high school in Chapel Hill, NC which was
bad by the standards of the day (1968) but which of course was a
kindergarten compared to the racial situation that exists in our
schools today. All we had to worry about back in my time was blacks
with knives rather than organized gangs and drug dealers armed with
semi-autos, and of course there were the hippy-dippy SDS type
radicals, many of whom I noticed even at the time appeared to be
Jews. Homosexuals didn’t even come into the equation back in those
days, and the drugs at school were just beer and grass and LSD, not
ecstasy or coke or crack.
I won’t go off into a
long digression about the various horrible racial experiences I had
in high school, but on the day I finally left there, I looked back
and made a silent personal vow that I would devote my life somehow to
making sure that no young White person ever again had to go through
what I had to go through in that place. Again, I didn’t realize how
relatively mild my problems had been and how terrible things would
become in my lifetime.
For reasons I won’t
get into, basically having to do with the fact that my father was a
psychopath, he ordered me out of the family home and I went into the
United States army at 17. My experiences in the military provided a
further dose of racial reality, although once again I understand they
were nothing compared to what young White enlistees go through
nowadays when the military has in desperation lowered the recruitment
criteria to include drug addicts, criminals, gang-bangers, etc.
I did my basic at Fort
Polk, Louisiana and then was sent for infantry training at Fort
Jackson, South Carolina and Ranger School at Fort Benning, Georgia.
At Fort Jackson I picked up a paperback book in the day room called
The Order of the Death’s Head, by a German named Heinze Höhne.
Rare among studies of the Third Reich, the book was actually
reasonably objective, and it had the effect of more or less
converting me to National Socialism. I remain a National Socialist in
my personal outlook to this day. While I was stationed at Schofield
Barracks, Hawaii I joined the National Socialist White People’s
Party (NSWPP), which was founded by George Lincoln Rockwell, and was
then run by a man named Matt Koehl. I formed a unit of a Party front
group called the White Servicemen’s League and ended up getting
discharged early, albeit under honorable conditions. Nowadays, of
course, I’d probably end up in Leavenworth for it.
After I got out of the
army I served on permanent NSWPP staff at the headquarters in El
Monte, California under the now-legendary Lt. Joseph Tommasi, who was
murdered in 1975. I then became editor of the Party newspaper White
Power in Arlington, Virginia. In 1974 I worked for a construction
company in Johannesburg, South Africa for about six months, and then
went to Rhodesia and joined the Rhodesian Army. In 1976 I was
deported from Rhodesia for my activities with the proto-NS Rhodesia
White People’s Party, along with two of my fellow Americans, Eric
Thomson and Jeffrey Spencer. That’s an interesting example of
conservatives being our true worst enemy. I was deported on the
personal orders of Ian Smith, and we all know what Mr. Smith’s
conservatism did to Rhodesia.
From then on it was the
usual long Movement history of different groups, different
approaches, all of them pretty much dead ends because there basically
isn’t anything that can be done on an all-America basis in order to
reverse the terminal decline of Western civilization on this
continent, at least not without the use of a level of armed force
which practically speaking, the Movement will never have at its
disposal.
In 1982 I more or less
went on the run for five years due to a legal situation [Greensboro - HH] which I’m
still not certain it’s completely safe for me to get into, given
the paranoid nature of our lords and masters these days and their
eagerness to find something, anything, to use as an excuse to plop me
down in the cell next to Bill White and Matt Hale. I ended up in
Ireland, which at that time had no extradition treaty with the USA,
due to the embarrassment and political complications for the Dublin
government which would be caused by possibly extraditing IRA men back
and forth across the Atlantic.
I learned a lot in
Ireland. I didn’t just hang out in pubs guzzling Guinness; I read
all the newspapers and watched RTE and BBC Northern Ireland, I made
trips into the North, I talked to certain people (very carefully) and
I sat quietly in certain known IRA pubs nursing a pint or two of
Smithwick’s, listening and observing. Basically, in Ireland I saw
how it’s done in the modern world, not in 1930s Germany, and it was
an invaluable education.
It’s true the IRA
didn’t win in the main sense of the term, but Communists though
they are (and I know that) this small band of dedicated White working
class men and women fought a major Western democratic military power
to a standstill, and forced the Brits to buy them off instead of
crushing them. Like Rocky Balboa, they went a full fifteen rounds
with Godzilla and they were still standing at the end of it. The
lesson I draw from this and other events in the past 20 years is that
it can be done.
In 2000, in the
aftermath of what Morris Dees did to Pastor Butler, I finally came
out openly for territorial White separatism in the form of the
Northwest Imperative.
INT: Can you explain
the Northwest Imperative, and tell us how you came to believe in it?
HAC: The
Northwest Imperative is based on the conviction, an accurate one,
that the United States of America in its present form is doomed, and
that it is necessary to the physical survival of the White race that
we establish a Homeland for all of our people worldwide somewhere on
the North American continent. Economics, demographics, and logistics
dictate that the best location for such a Homeland is here in the
Pacific Northwest. In addition, we have a long history here of
commitment and martyrdom here in the Northwest: Bob Mathews and the
Order men, Sam and Vicky Weaver, Gordon Kahl, and our latest martyr
from the Northwest Front, Jeff Hughes of Vancouver, Canada.
The essence of the
Northwest Idea is to reduce the problem to manageable proportions. We
are simply too weak, disorganized, and too few to take over the
United States, and we need to accept that just ain’t gonna happen.
Instead of a whole huge continent and 300 million mostly hostile
people to worry about, we reduce the problem geographically and
demographically to three and a half states with about 12 million
people, mostly White. Given the inevitable coming implosion of the
United States and the collapse of the central authority in Washington
D.C., when they run out of money to pay their mercenaries,
bureaucrats, and enforcers, the Northwest Imperative is do-able in a
way that no other plan we’ve ever come up with is doable.
The Northwest
Imperative also reduces the problem to that of a colonial war, and
there are numerous models from the last century as to how to wage and
win a colonial war. The objective is to make the disputed territory
ungovernable and turn it into a massive rathole down which the
occupying power bleeds money, manpower, and resources until it can’t
stand the hemorrhage any longer and cuts its losses. The most
important statement in any of my Northwest novels, so important that
I have various characters say it over and over again in all four
books, is this: “In a colonial war, it’s never the generals
who surrender. It’s the accountants.”
INT: Can you tell us
what you are doing to promote the idea of a Northwest homeland and to
prepare for its concrete realization?
HAC: We have
formed the “Party” of the Northwest novels, called the Northwest
Front, although it isn’t really a Party yet and probably won’t be
for some time. Right now it’s just what the name says, a broad
front rather than a party. We have participation from people who are
involved with other groups and from people who are involved with
none. There is no formal membership status, no chain of command, and
no hierarchy. We provide what support we can to anyone who lives here
or who is willing to come here to the Homeland and work for Northwest
independence.
Eventually that will
have to change, of course. Eventually there must be a disciplined,
fighting revolutionary Party of political soldiers, but that’s
going to take us a while. White Americans are the sloppiest, laziest,
most narcissistic and most undisciplined people in the world, and
they simply can’t wrap their minds around a European concept such
as the political soldier. Not yet. They will have to change, or they
will perish from the earth.
INT: Like most of
the people in the racialist movement today, my awakening and
education were enormously aided by the internet. You yourself have a
substantial web presence. Yet you are known as a staunch critic of
movement’s strong dependence on the internet. Can you explain your
views on the virtues and limits of the internet for white
nationalism?
HAC: The
internet is a reality of 21st century life. I understand and accept
that. It can no more be un-invented than gunpowder or nuclear power
can be un-invented. The Net has become a necessary evil, but an evil
nonetheless, in my opinion.
For one thing, the
internet is largely sterile politically. It produces almost nothing
except more Net. Somebody sees a great pro-White web site and they
are inspired with enthusiasm—to build another web site. There is
this immense disconnect between what is essentially a fantasy world
in cyber-space and the real world out here where White people are
unemployed and foreclosed White families are beginning to live in
tent cities called Obamavilles.
The internet gives the
White male a feel-good factor which he doesn’t have to earn. He
sits down at his computer after work with a bowl of nachos and a few
cold brewskis, he plays around on VNN or surfs the web looking for
racial stuff, maybe he makes a post or two, and then at the end of
the evening he gets up and staggers off to bed with the feeling that
he has accomplished something, but he hasn’t. All he has done is to
generate words, and words are no good on earth if they never
translate into physical action.
The internet provides
the White male with a substitute for action, and with a place where
he can hide. Yes, I understand that most of us have jobs and families
and homes we have to protect, but the fact remains that at some point
in time we are going to have to stand erect once more, like men, and
not with our heads hung down and our eyes lowered and our feet
shuffling in the presence of our Jewish and liberal lords and
masters. The internet does not facilitate the strengthening of the
one ancient virtue of our people which we need most of all to
re-discover: simple physical courage.
Finally, the internet
provides something that our highly dysfunctional people cannot
resist: consequences-free misbehavior. This is not just a Movement
phenomenon; it’s a White thing. The internet is a looney bin, and
everyone knows it. The internet is where sick and twisted and often
quite deranged people go to vomit. I have never seen anything like
some of the filth, the depravity, the idiocy, and the just plain
raving madness that I find on the internet every day. I know quite
ordinary and apparently stable, functional, and successful people who
sit down behind that keyboard, and all of a sudden they get a visit
from Mr. Hyde. You’ve heard of discovering one’s Inner Child?
It’s like the lure of consequences-free misbehavior on the internet
unlocks some people’s Inner Nut.
All of this having been
said, the internet remains the only medium of mass communication we
have access to, the only place that provides anything remotely
resembling a level playing field, which is probably why the Jews and
the government hate it so much. Love the internet or hate it, we seem
to be stuck with it.
INT: Many of our
people dwell on negative signs, and there are plenty of them. Do you
see positive signs? Do you think there are good reasons for hope?
HAC: Oh, yes,
certainly. So long as one doesn’t confuse hope with optimism. For
one thing, it is a historical truism that nothing lasts forever. This
Francis Fukuyama rap about liberal democracy being the “end of
history” is horse dung. Everything ends, and the present Zionist
world order will end as well, quite possibly within the lifetime of
those now born. It may not end the way we want it to end, and it may
drag the White race and Western civilization down with it, but oh,
yes, it will end. Our task in this and coming generations is to make
sure that we survive the collapse of this massive evil, along with at
least some semblance of Western civilization.
For another thing, for
all our weaknesses and flaws we are still the most intelligent and
potentially the bravest and most hardy race on earth. It takes more
than 100 years of liberal brainwashing, political correctness, and
McDonalds’ Happy Meals to contaminate and extinguish a whole human
genotype. Deep down we are still the men our ancestors were, it’s
just sometimes it’s so deep down we can’t read our genetic
script.
We can do this thing.
We can beat these bastards, any time we so choose. The question is,
will we so choose? The Weltfeind is counting on his ability to
obscure our racial light in a murk of questions, indecision,
introspection, corruption, and apathy, to drag the whole world into
the shades of grey in which the Jew thrives. If we can achieve moral
clarity in our souls we will recover our courage, and when we recover
our courage we will rip their hearts out.
INT: One of the
things that most struck me about your Northwest Quartet is the
attitude of high moral seriousness that these novels communicate,
which I think is a valuable corrective to the movement’s general
ethos of emotional self-indulgence. But you are better at
communicating this than I am. Most white nationalists accept that our
race is facing oblivion. What more do they need to get serious?
HAC: The stock
answer to that is that things have to get so bad that every White
man, woman and child is personally affected in their own lives by the
current crisis of civilization. They must lose their houses, their
jobs, their SUVs and their plasma TVs and all that nice cold beer in
the fridge. This is certainly true as far as it goes, and it is now
at long last beginning to happen during this onset of the Obama
Depression.
But I believe that more
has to happen. There has to be a genuine spiritual awakening that
burns away the past several generations of excrement that the Jews
have caked around our souls. Our people must once more learn to value
something higher than their own private lives and their own creature
comforts. I personally found this in National Socialism, others find
it in religion, but one of the advantages of turning this into a
colonial war is that it allows for the creation of a new (or rather
old) idealism in our hearts, a secular nationalism that aspires to
the creation of a new country, free of alien oppressors. That will
work. Ask the Irish.
INT: Early in your
career, you were an avowed National Socialist. How has your thinking
changed since then? In your view, what are the enduring truths in
National Socialism, and what are its limitations?
HAC: I am just
as much a National Socialist now as I ever was. The enduring truth of
National Socialism lies in one slogan: “Our race is our nation.”
National Socialism affirms the primacy of race over lesser aspects of
human existence such as religion and nationality.
I have, however, come
to realize that most Americans are totally spiritually unequipped to
accept such a doctrine. They don’t speak the language. They simply
haven’t been engineered that way, and of course 70 years of Jewish
hate propaganda, misrepresentation, and distortion hasn’t helped.
Back in my youth in the old Party, we had the idea that through a
process of long and slow education we could wean a sufficient number
of our people away from the Jewish narrative and make them see the
truth, but we didn’t do so hot at that, and now we are out of time.
Simply and starkly, it’s about racial survival now, and that has to
take first place in our strategy.
In order to convince
people, you must first put yourself on a credible basis of
communication with them, and you can’t do that by immediately
confronting them with symbols and ideas that they have been
conditioned from birth to reject. Every essential principle of
National Socialism has a perfectly reasonable and understandable
circumlocution that can be used within the American context so as to
bypass the socially-engineered rejection mechanisms which have been
implanted in White people’s brains. Call it National Socialism
Lite, if you will. I don’t like it, but the urgency of our racial
crisis overrides my personal feelings.
INT: What are the
books, writers, and historical events that have most shaped your
particular version of white nationalism?
HAC: Besides
National Socialist works and history? First and foremost there is the
life and work of Commander George Lincoln Rockwell. There’s the
American Civil War, of course. I was born and raised in the last of
the Old South, when it was considered entirely normal to have
Confederate flags on one’s possessions and when it was still
possible to see Confederate heroes positively portrayed on TV and in
comic books, etc.
Easter 1916 and the
Irish War of Independence is another obvious example. I think the
situation in Ireland in the 1920s is probably as close a parallel to
our situation today as can be drawn. Later on we may draw some
insight from the Spanish Civil War, which I always liked—the last
war the good guys actually won.
My main Movement
mentors were Major William Gaedtke, the last head of the old America
First Committee (the Lindbergh one) and Pastor Robert Miles. They
taught me the ropes. I learned a lot from Matt Koehl as well. I never
thought I’d say this, and I still don’t agree with what Koehl did
to the NSWPP, but after three decades I now understand why Koehl did
a lot of the things he did.
INT: I really enjoy your
novels. I have reviewed the Northwest Quartet, and I have also read
Slow Coming Dark, Fire And Rain, and most recently The Stars In Their
Path, as well as the collection Other Voices, Darker Rooms. Who are
your main literary influences? Which of your works are your favorites
and why?
HAC: My
father was a reader of pulp science fiction back in the 1950s and
1960s, and he had these big cardboard cartons of old sci-fi
paperbacks in the basement, including a lot of the old Ace doubles
that went for 50 cents in those days and would probably go for a
couple of hundred bucks apiece today if you could get hold of an
intact copy. They were written by all the sci-fi greats of the 50s
and 60s: Robert A. Heinlein, Brian Aldiss, Philip K. Dick, Alfred
Bester, Edmond Hamilton, Alan E. Nourse, Andre Norton, Ray Bradbury,
etc. Those were my first bulk reading, and then starting about age 14
I somehow (don’t remember how) discovered H. P. Lovecraft, and that
was love at first sight. I still lug around the three-volume Arkham
House set of his complete works with me wherever I go.
My Northwest novels are
purely political polemics, wherein I say things that wouldn’t be
politic to say openly in any other context. They are for the purpose
of imparting ideas and disseminating practical information using what
Lenin called “Aesopian Language,” the language of fable. My
actual fiction as such, novels like The Stars In Their Path, The
Renegade, Vindictus, etc. aren’t really “influenced” by anyone
or anything. They’re just stories I get into my febrile brain and
which I have to purge by telling them and letting them out.
As to my favorites,
excluding the Quartet, which don’t count because they’re not
really novels in the true sense of the word, I’d have to say that
The Madman and Marina [in Other Voices, Darker Rooms] is the best
short piece I’ve ever done. It may possibly even be the best piece,
period—I once had an e-mail correspondent in St. Petersburg tell me
he didn’t believe that my name is Covington, that I had to be a
Russian writing under an American pseudonym, because only a Russian
could produce such a Dostoyevskyan story. I consider that to be the
best review I’ve ever had.
Personal favorite among
the long novels? The Stars In Their Path, I’d say. Like all my
other books it tells a story, but I use reincarnation as a device to
keep on telling the same story over and over and over again, a
different way each time and with different characters, rather than
draw the same plot out to 100,000 words of padding. I think that was
neat, if I do say so myself.
INT: In the
Northwest Quartet and Fire And Rain, I was especially impressed with
how you can blend intense drama with light comedy, classical
eloquence with pop-culture slang and vulgarity. Joss Whedon and
Quentin Tarantino came to mind. Do you pay attention to popular
culture? Do you watch movies or television? Name some favorite
writers, directors, movies, TV shows.
HAC: I don’t
watch television any more, and haven’t for a long time. It’s not
just that it’s Judaized to the max and politically nauseating, it’s
just stupid. Moronic. I glance over hulu.com every now and then, and
I don’t see anything on there that prompts me to get cable again.
Why pay $75 a month for drivel?
Movies are another
matter. DVDs from the Blockbuster bargain racks are about the only
form of recreation I can afford, besides a library card. In that
sense yes, I have managed to keep up with enough popular culture,
especially among young White people (negrofied though that culture
is) so that I can make my young characters believable. I think so,
anyway. None of my youthful readers have complained so far.
There are certain
movies that just plain creep me out, like Naked Lunch, and there are
certain flicks I find fascinating because they’re incredibly
bizarre, like Dark Star and the American version of Kingdom Hospital,
which IMHO is the just plain weirdest thing ever shown on television.
My own DVD collection includes Henry the Fifth, (Kenneth Branagh
version), Zulu, The 13th Warrior, The Outlaw Josey Wales, and a few
oddballs from the 70s like Time After Time and Absolution. I gave
some friends of mine the first five episodes of Sharpe’s Rifles. I
like a lot of escapist swashbuckling stuff, as you can tell.
INT: Do you plan to
write any more novels?
HAC: At this
point I would say probably not. I’m pretty much NVA’ed out. There
is a limit to what can be accomplished through fantasy and the
creation of a fictional mythos. If I have not yet succeeded in
imparting a vision of possibility to our people in the four Northwest
novels already extant, I probably never will. I am concentrating
henceforth on trying to turn the vision into reality through the
Northwest Front, the “Party” of the novels, and it’s a
five-star bitch. Getting “our” people to peep out from behind
their computers and commit a real live physical act out here in the
real world is like pulling teeth. Half of my contacts I can’t even
get to respond to an e-mail.
I still have some bits
and pieces of novels and stories lying around in manuscript form and
on my computer, plus some ideas I’d like to play with if I ever get
the time and the right situation (like the long prison sentence on
some ridiculous fabricated charge which I’m sure our lords and
masters would like to oblige me with). The main one is a kind of
adult version of the Harry Potter series where a secret society of
powerful Aryan spirits operating in a kind of nether world one step
above this dimension use their magical powers to try and reverse the
destruction of our people wrought by the Sauron-like Jewish overlord
of the Dark World, although it would hopefully come across a little
more convincing than that. I doubt I’ll ever get around to it,
though. I need to concentrate what time I have left on building
something in the real world.
INT: The Stars In
Their Path surprised me because it is a rather “metaphysical”
novel. In my opinion, you are very wise to counsel white nationalists
to be neutral on religious issues. But you are also a private citizen
too. So Citizen, can you tell us about your religious and
metaphysical beliefs and how you arrived at them?
HAC: I believe
in reincarnation because I myself have witnessed and experienced
events that indicate to me that it is at least part of the process
that happens to the human soul or personality after death. I won’t
get into the details of these experiences here, because my present
life is all about the 14 Words and such beliefs aren’t really
germane to my racial work. We are meant to live our lives in this
world, not the next. My metaphysical world view has provided me with
one invaluable spiritual asset, in that I do not fear death, although
admittedly any Islamic suicide bomber can say the same.
When I went out into
the bush in Rhodesia, for example, I was never afraid of being
killed. Coming back armless or legless from a land mine, or blind, or
in a wheelchair, now that scared the bejesus out of me, but not
actual death, and that’s a handy spiritual resource to have. I do
not, however, insist on these beliefs, nor do I try to impose them on
others. I am not missionary about them for the simple reason that I
know, and others are going to find out in the fullness of time, and
it doesn’t really matter what they believe. Whatever floats their
boat. For me the question is resolved—again, a good asset for a
revolutionary to be packing.
INT: It is
depressing to contemplate how much effort goes into things that we
would not think twice about if we just came to grips with the fact
that we are going to die, and we don’t know when. It can happen any
day. What do you think gives meaning to human life? Do you think
there is a larger meaning and purpose to the universe? Do you think
it links up with individuals lives?
HAC: As opposed
to my certainty on reincarnation, I take a rather Zen-ish attitude
towards the meaning of each individual life itself. Just because
you’re going to get more than one go-round is no excuse for
slacking. This world is a school where we are sent to learn and to
grow as individual spiritual beings, You start out in the equivalent
of kindergarten and work your way through grades one through six,
junior high, high school, university, maybe some cosmic post-grad
work, who knows? You get the idea. Kids who goldbrick and just try to
skate through in school don’t turn out well as a rule, and neither
do human spirits. Karmically speaking it is possible to “fail a
grade,” many times over, and be forced to keep on repeating the
same experiences and facing the same obstacles until one buckles down
to it, overcomes those obstacles, and develops properly.
There is nothing at all
wrong with spiritual ambition and a drive for excellence, to live
one’s life for the purpose of leaving behind a better world than
one found at birth. Actually that’s how we all should be living,
although needless to say most don’t. Ideally every human life
should accomplish something, and this involves overcoming the
physical, spiritual, and character-related flaws and obstacles that
are part of life. In my view, since the end result as far as the
individual’s fate is foreordained in any case, how you play the
game is indeed the more important aspect of it all, because that’s
what you will take with you into your next existence.
INT: One thought
that comforts me in darker moods is the fact that, long after the
Earth is just a burned out cinder in the emptiness of space, radio
waves carrying the music of Bach and Mozart and Wagner will still be
traveling outwards, perhaps to find ears worthy of them. (Of course
all the crap ever broadcast will be out there too.) Does music matter
much to you? What are some of your favorite genres, musicians,
composers, and why?
HAC: Classically
speaking I enjoy Wagner, of course, as well as Mozart, Verdi,
Gregorian chant and Eastern Orthodox liturgical music, Gesualdo,
Hildegard von Bingen, and Aaron Copland, one of the few Jews to whom
I would be inclined to award “honorary Aryan” status.
But I don’t actually
listen to much classical; it demands concentration in order to be
appreciated, and most of my mellows I play while I’m working or
writing. I did a mix tape I called the Northwest Soundtrack for some
of my fans, consisting of key mood pieces I listened to while
composing certain sections of the Quartet novels, and it included
everything from Celtic symphonic music from the Granuaile, Pilgrim,
and Relief of Derry CDs, to rock music from Joe Walsh and Jefferson
Airplane, to bagpipes, to movie soundtracks and bluegrass.
My three main music
collections I play on my computer while I’m working are entitled
“Irish,” which includes Enya, the Chieftains, the Corrs, Bothy
Band and Planxty; “Southern” which starts out with Ralph Stanley
and moves on to Waylon Jennings, Flatt and Scruggs, Steve Earle, Mike
Cross, and Grandpa Jones; and finally “Rock” which has Jefferson
Airplane, Phil Collins, the Who, the Rolling Stones, and Runrig,
among others.
INT: What are the
best things you have done in your life so far, and what things do you
most regret doing or leaving undone?
HAC: The best
thing is my children. They despise me, of course, having been
carefully raised to do so by the other members of my family, and that
fact has not the slightest iota of effect on my love for them. It’s
not their fault, and besides, you can never really be angry at
someone whose nappies you’ve changed. The fact is that they exist,
and I hope someday they will have children of their own and do better
by them than I was able to do.
The thing I regret most
is not stepping forward with the Northwest idea many years ago, when
I knew and understood that it was the way to go. Certainly I knew
after Ruby Ridge that this was a sacrifice we could not ignore or
denigrate by continuing to waste our time on strategies that were
proven failures, or even worse, by simply continuing to drift. Why I
didn’t step forward in 1992 and proclaim what I knew to be the
truth involves a lot of complex factors, some of them not very
creditable to me. It took the martyrdom of Pastor Butler for me to
finally screw my courage to the sticking point. Part of that growing
process I mentioned, but it shouldn’t have taken me that long, and
if the NF is now running short on time, that is in a large degree my
fault. I regret that deeply, and hope I can make up for it in the
time I have left.
INT: I know a lot of
very bright and promising young nationalists. I have recommended your
novels to them, even given them copies, and they have definitely been
influenced. What is your advice to young nationalists? If you had a
son of 19 or 20, embarking on adult life, what would you tell him?
HAC: As clichéd
as this will sound, my first advice (which I was never allowed to
give to my actual son in real life) would be to learn a trade. Get a
marketable skill, something to sell, which will keep food on your
table and a roof over your head.
If you are going to be
politically effective, you have to start with those basics. You can’t
participate in a revolution while living under a bridge, and that’s
where millions of White people are headed.
Learn to fix the rich
man’s toys when they break, learn to do it well and at an
economical price, and you will always work. You have to financially
bulletproof yourself by acquiring a skill that somebody, somewhere,
will always be willing to pay you to exercise. When you’ve got a
roof over your head, a functioning motor vehicle, and your basic
needs met, that’s your baseline for political activity. You
shouldn’t attempt it otherwise.
INT: Thank you.
Interview of Harold A. Covington by Greg Johnson of Counter Currents from 2010.
